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implications to the economy. much more than the fiscal cliff. >> exactly. the debt ceiling is a cliff. the fiscal cliff is somewhat misname because as we said -- >> slope. >> slope. curb. go over and get back. it is not so bad. but, you know, there's no sort of we defaulted yesterday and today we are sort of undefaulting. it doesn't work that way. once you defaulted on your debt, i mean, you have really sent the world a message you are deeply dysfunctional and the president has said i'm not going to negotiate over that. i'm not going to allow that kind of threat to the credit worthiness of the greatest economy in the world. >> yet, that's where all of the republicans want to have their next fight. >> that's where they want to have the fight. give it to them or not. i suspect he won't. >> quite a few days followed by quite a few months. thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >>> why do some washington power brokers want to go over the fiscal cliff? the political brief sing next. first, the amr moment of 2012 that left us all speechless. i'm not kidding. this literally left me
.s. economy will grow over the " fiscal cliff. " >> what is happening right now high pressure is staying in place and it is falling down and stall in the system. it is currently 34 degrees in santa rosa. it is not a bad start for san francisco they're waking up to 43 degrees. as we take a look at the visibility map there is a dense fog forming. it is not too bad for napa and out in concord. reports of visibility down to this 3 tens of a mile. this is only the dangerous spot here. you may want to allow yourself a little bit of extra time. >> we are tracking the storm for you. we will not see too much moisture associated with this. we will see cloud cover that will start to run but. all the white on the screeby 3:00 p.m. most of the moisture will be sitting off shore. the shower chances will increase later on tonight into the morning. by 9:00 p.m. we may have some light rain for the shoreline. as we continue to advance the clock showers will pass through for overnight hours. >> as we take a look at the afternoon highs it will be a another cold one. it will be 49 degrees for fairfield and 5
the fact that if we go over this fiscal cliff, the press to deal economy, just barely recovering, is very strong. the risk to people is as though they are playing tug of war with the american economy and a country that's going to get hurt. beyond that, as soon as we get through to the fiscal cliff with sensible policies, but also replacing it with sensible ways to deal with the fiscal charges of the debt, it looks as though we're not going to be able to do anything to tackle those challenges right now and that is a partisan environment in washington getting worse and worse leaving us with questions about whether these guys are actually able to govern. host: that is what is written about on the front page of "the new york times" this morning. guest: i feel like we're watching a game of a finger pointing. there is little discussion of actual public policy, but both sides are shouting louder and louder that it is the other sides fault, pointing fingers. what if any other business environment work this way? both sides tried to cast blame instead of working together? at this point, the level o
the fiscal cliff. charlie's at the live desk right now this morning with more on the battle ahead for both sides of the debate. charlie the 11th hour. >> the future, the immediate future of our taxes hang in the balance. the president and house republicans are now set to square off once more to cut a deal. with just five days remaining before the tax hikes and departmental cuts take effect. before christmas house republicans failed to pass the alternate plan instead placing the responsibility on president obama and senate democrats' shoulder. according to the "washington post" gop leaders vowed to go into session to vote on anything the democratic controlled senate approved. however speaker john boehner demanded the senate first take a look at the bill the house moved through a month ago that preserved the expiring tax cuts for the wealthy as well as the middle class. that's not likely given the president's position on raising taxes for those making more than $250,000 a year. >> i want us to not go over the cliff because i think if we do it hurts our economy and it hurts our country. >> mi
have a huge impact on our economy just when it's most vulnerable to the approaching fiscal cliff. business groups and state leaders are now calling on the president to intervene, warning that a strike could really cost the country billions of dollars. if history is any indication, those warnings may be dead on. a lockout on the west coast back in 2002, remember that? lasted a total of ten days, and it cost the economy an estimated $1 billion each and every day. >>> a strike at the ports of los angeles and long beach earlier this month lasted eight days, an estimated loss of $650 million a day. a republican strategist and a former campaign aide for president george w. bush, julie roginsky is former political adviser to new jersey senate frank lautenberg. good to see you both. >> good to see you. gregg: didi, smoot-holly was passed decades ago for the purpose of putting tariff limits on incoming products. do we need to reexplore that? >> yeah. this was, this was back in the '60s. i mean, this was ancient history. why should these workers who get paid very well also get on top of th
the democratic controlled senate to lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. congress people from both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution. that is the leadership that america needs, not what we saw from the president this morning ." those of the comments from speaker boehner. the house has gaveled out. we expect them back in about two hours. let's go to newbury port. caller: thank you for c-span. i do not understand where this $250,000 number comes from. i am 70 and have never been asked to make a sacrifice by any congress. it just seems to me that if the average income in most states -- to ask people making $125,000 or more, to ask them to contribute more, that seems to be a no- brainer. i do not see why people in this country are not ready to make a compromise. let's face it, we will either all have to pay slightly more taxes and accept the fact that our benefits are going to have to be lower than they really are -- i am in that bracket of $125,000 to $250,000. i am very comfortable, i could contribute more to the deficit, i just want to make sure that that money goes to
bargain. so i don't really buy the aurm that if you smooth out the fiscal cliff, then you go on and do other things. >> with the speed bump, if you're going too slow, which the economy is, if it's a big one, you go up and you might want make it over. and then if you're going too fast, you go up in the air, take out your transmission. >> what happens if you have a low car? >> it's bad. you hurt your undercarriage. but spain and the undercarriage is not something any of us need. but i think that howard dean, we didn't have time to go back and get howard and stuff. but howard said the best deal the democrats are going to get is to go over the fiscal cliff. taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position
to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will over the so- called fiscal cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids played soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should all be here. i told the president that i would be happy to look at what ever he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline here and as i said this is the conversation that we should have had months ago. >> democrats want to extend the bush era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making too much as $50,000 or more a year. if many republicans remain against any tax increases. >> former president george agent w. bush is still in intensive care at a houston hospital this morning. the former president's family is confident that he will be out of the i see you soon. the 88 year-old has been in the hospital for more than a month, after first coming down with bronchitis. >> it is nine 07 a.m.. we will be right back. there has been a major news from the gulf of mexico. here
to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> if in fact we do go over the fiscal cliff it means the economy is going to go down pretty sharply. [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. . gregg: you expect accrued of lines when you're shopping. how about sharks? look at those cameras rolling. a giant aquarium bursts, e phroedz insid explodes inside a mall in sang high china it sends glass, water, everywhere, including sharks. fortunately the sharks weren't terribly hungry at the moment and they didn't get very far. patti ann: george h.w. bush is in intensive care at a houston hospital battling a subject born fever. the former president has been sick for a few weeks now. on november 7th he was admitted to methodist hospital in houston what cough. he was later released only to be readmitted on november 23rd. by december 13th a hospital spokesman said the former president was improving and should
not going to go off the fiscal cliff or if we do go off the fiscal cliff it will be a small package of some tax increases, some spending cuts, but it's not going to put the economy into a recession. so what i've been telling clients is let's just hold the line right here. let's not sell precipitously. let's wait until we see the outcome. but right now i think there's a real good chance that the outcome could be positive or will muddle our way through this significant problem. >> ifill: let me ask you a question which politicians kept bringing up during this last election which is the that the uncertainty is what makes people nervous in the business world. is this the kind of uncertainty they were talking about? >> it absolutely is. you mentioned before the retail sales numbers for this christmas season and the retail sales numbers for this christmas season were very poor, very soft. this is both individuals and individuals affecting companies making decisions and it's really largely driven by their significant uncertainty about what's going to be their tax rate in 2013. they're really postp
as members of congress return to washington to address the fiscal cliff. talks will take place behind closed doors. no public negotiations set. you have the debt and the fiscal cliff. it's not looking too good right now when it comes to the u.s. economy. >> geithner told congressional leaders that his department is using some accounting measures basically a fancy way of saying they're going to free up cash to hold off temporarily this fiscal cliff. but it's still not looking good. >> i don't know about you at home, but kicking the can down the road has been happening over and over again. somebody has to make some decisions here. >> it's like in this business, they give you a deadline and you have to hit the deadline. there's no coming in and saying take another ten minutes. it don't work that way in real life. there are americans out there saying get off your couches. get back to washington and get the deal done. >> sometimes it's not pretty when you have to rush, but get it done. >>> still on the economy now, new signs of a turn around in the real estate market. for the first time since 200
. >> eric: thousands of jobs and billions of dollars are at stake but this is no fiscal cliff. this is the looming port strike threatening to shut ports from boston, miami and beyond. florida governor rick scott telling the media a strike will be devastating to his state's economy. governor's right but it's an entire nation about to get slammed. brent is the president of miller and long construction. we import -- we pointed out somewhere around 65% of international trade hits the ports. we import cars, we import produce, we import oil and gas. explain how this will affect the prices for people watching right now of everything. >> well, it will be very significant in a lot of ways. we're talking about eleven ports, basically from boston pretty much all the way around to houston. the reason governor scott is concerned is there are four ports in florida that will be affected. this is containerized shipping. electronic goods, food stuff and things like that. it could be massive impact, especially in this -- we had retailers getting trouble getting back on track. it will affect eve
. state department says it is willing to talk more about keeping the children safe. >>> fiscal cliff isn't the only threat to the u.s. economy. get a load of this. the container cliff. nearly 15,000 dockworkers from maryland to texas are threatening to strike, starting sunday, which could shut down more than a dozen key shipping ports and cripple commerce across the country. dock on workers are demanding higher container royalties to boost their pay. >>> did the newtown school shooter have an evil gene? scientists at the university of connecticut will study adam lanza's dna to see if a mutation or ab normality could have made him more violent? this is the first study of its kind on a mass killer. >>> jockeying started for john kerry's senate seat, even before it's vacant. massachusetts congressman ed markey throwing his hat into the ring in kerry becomes secretary of state, which is expected, a special election will be held early this summer. markey is the first prominent candidate to declare for the race. >>> love this story. paying it forward by paying it backward. a story of rampant g
is the fiscal cliff impasse. it's a potentially devastating one-two bunch for the u.s. economy. neither the longshore's union or alliance shipping company would allow anyone to speak on camera. but officials knowledgeable of the negotiations say it boils down to one issue. the key sticking point is the payments that the longshore men get for them. they pay royalties for the containers based on their weight but the shipping companies want to freeze those royalty payments for current longshore men and eliminate them for future hires. the longshore men say the royalties are made to make up for automation. but if the shipping companies lockout the longshore men -- >> that would impact more than containers. that would impact all cargos at ports. that would have a much more impactful reaction. $55 billion worth of cargo in an average month this year. candy? >> brian, i have to imagine retail companies and others who want those goods off the ships and in their stores have to be plenty worried. do they have a plan b to move those goods if there's a strike? >> reporter: yes. some of them do. clo
. not just the fiscal cliff with the potential threat to the economy, thousands of dockworkers from maine to texas could go on strike within days if their union can't reach a deal with major shipping companies. these are the workers who move goods from the nation's ports to the stores. >> everybody from your mom and pop retailer to your farmer, to the trucking company who has go in and pick up the containers at the ports. this will be felt not just at the local economy, but nationwide for everybody else who relies on these ports. >> one port official says east and gulf coast ports handle about $55 billion worth of cargo a month so a strike could have a major effect on the retail business. >>> land lines not going the way of the vcr just yet. older americans are slow to get rid of land lines and go mobile. the centers for disease control asked 20,000 households about trends throughout the year. the study found about 52% use cell phones for all of their cal calls, that's less than 2% increase from previous years. the older generation is slower to make the switch. >>> patrick democracy might
.s. stock market. despite all those worries about the fiscal cliff and maybe slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. the smart money's been in the market. the rest of us have been worried about the fiscal cliff. >> number eight, facebook's ipo. hundreds of millions of people like facebook but investors did not on its first day as a public company. trading glitches at the nasdaq and questions about the company's ability to make money on mobile users pummeled the stock which has yet to climb its way back to its ipo price. >> number seven, mother meyer, the new ceo of yahoo!. 37 years old. looks like a mother's touch is just exactly what yahoo! needed. >> number six, mother nature. an intense drought in the midwest that scorched the soy and corn crop sending prices sky high. who could forget superstorm sandy. neighborhoods swept away, millions without power and damages as high as $50 billion, raising lots of questions about u.s. infrastructure and whether we should be spending some money to fix it. >> number five, china. is chin
if a budget deal is reached in washington. if if the u.s. economy falls off the fiscal cliff, it will have an impact around the world. haus sirken is a partner and fellow of the overseas markets and joins us from chicago. thanks for being with us on this weekend. the idea -- >> great being with you, martin. >> thank you. the idea of the world being affected by the fiscal cliff problem here in america wasn't really lost on the president after his meeting with congressional immediate leaders yesterday. let's listen. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get 100% what have they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy, aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> so that begs the question, hall. how are other countries preparing for this really precarious situation and one in which they really have no control. >> well, martin, there's not much they can do to prepare. what will happen, if the fiscal cliff turns out to take place, is that we'll start to see the eco
? the fiscal cliff, still looming. spending cuts and tax hikes that could shove our economy into recession. and a deadline lawmakers ignored until the very last possible minute. live pictures now of the capitol. looks beautiful. man, but there's a lot of wrangling going on there. lawmakers are back up -- had their backs up against the wall right now. and as they try to find a plan that can pass congress. let's hope they do. cnn's chief white house correspondent is jessica yellin. she is following the negotiations, working very hard on this saturday. so jess, democrats and republicans are supposedly working on a plan, even as we speak. what do we know about it? >> reporter: well, we know, don, that it's the senate leaders that are hashing this out. and what they're looking to negotiate is a deal that would extend current low tax rates for middle income americans. we don't know the exact threshold levels. so would it be people who make $400,000 and less, would it be $250,000 and less. but something that would extend low rates and then increase them above. extend probably unemployment benefit
. >> coming at the same time as the fiscal cliff impasse it's a potentially devastating one-two punch for the u.s. economy. neither the longshoreman's union nor the northern alliance would give us anyone to speak on camera but officials with knowledge of the negotiations say it boils down to one issue -- the key sticking point is over those large containers and the payments that longshoremen get for them. the shipping companies pay royalties to the longshoremen for the containers based on their weight but the shipping companies want to freeze the royalty payments for current longshoremen and eliminate them completely for future hires. the longshoremen say the royalties are designed to make up for jobs lost to automation. strike would only affect ports that handle containers, not other cargo like automobiles, but if the shipping companies lock out the longshoreman -- >> that would impact more than containers. that would impact all cargos at ports, so that would have obviously a much more impactful reaction. >> reporter: how impactful? scher says east coast and gulf coast ports handled
of the fiscal cliff, we may go through this all over again. it's another drag on the markets and on the whole economy at exactly the wrong time. >> when you say drag, though, give us an example of what you mean. we talked about january 2nd, everybody goes back to work and markets open. are we going to see a lot of volatility. all of a sudden it crashes down at once. what happens to wall street. >> we're going to see a lot of volume activity until the issues get resolved. it's not as if the borrowing limit directly affects companies represented in the stock market, but the problem is that washington is the whole story right now and there's so much unpredictability about the economy. u.s. treasury securities are the biggest class of securities in the world. it sort of affects everything else about the markets, the financial markets, interest rates. and if we don't quite know what's going to happen in that bedrock market, which provides a lot of liquidity, it affects everything else. there's also a psychological component, which standard & poor's hinted at. the fact there's so little confidence
force one early this morning and headed for washington to deal with unfinished fiscal cliff business. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, mr. obama wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and senate majority leader harry reid told members to be prepared to address fiscal cliff issues through the weekend. reid is working on his own plan to get lawmakers to come together before the end of the year deadline. that plan would likely include letting the bush tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year and short term spending cuts instead of the massive long-term cuts that would happen if there is no deal. after our wednesday conference call, house republican leaders issued a statement saying they were waiting for the democratic controlled senate. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass they said but the senate first must act. in a sign of public frustration over the lack of a de
and there's still no sign leaders are closer to agreeing on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. here's brian mooar. >> as senate leaders were behind closed doors, president obama and republicans issued dueling messages on the web. >> we can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing. >> if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff next tuesday, each side blames the other. >> we can avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and democrat controlled senate step forward this week and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> all over the country now, uncertainty is in the area. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill or not but will it deplete my savings. >> even if the impact isn't real, the perceived impact could cause us to drop off in sales. >> getting a deal is up to the senate's top democrat and top republican. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader myself and the white house, in hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be imperf
to avoid the whole fiscal cliff and the president has never called for the senate to act on those bills. he simply has allowed the democratic controlled senate to sit on them and lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. i am pleased senators from both parties are currently working to find a bipartisan solution and finally passed the chamber. if that is the type of leadership american needs, not what they saw from the president this morning. the words of the speaker of the house, john boehner. the senate and house are in today. the senate gavelled in 10 minutes ago. on their agenda today is a couple of nominations, nomination votes at 2:00 p.m. eastern. forn they will gavel iout about an hour to discuss possible solutions to the fiscal cliff. the house will come in at 2:00 p.m. eastern. they have 14 suspension bills on the agenda this afternoon. we expect them to come in at 2:00. vote's expected 6:30 eastern. we will have live coverage on c- span. representative ron paul, former republican candidate, wraps up 24 years in the u.s. house. the baltic and look next at his farewell speec
of a fiscal cliff deal, but many believe that will end up hurting the economy, giving a disincentive to invest money? was that just focused on the real wealthy? >> i hear that argument a lot. number one is, i'm really tired of our tax policy decisions. you know, everything, being made by what the market's going to do in the next quarter. this is about aberration of the tax code and grossly unfair. say they raise top tax rate to 39.6% for those making more than $500,000. that means a lot of small businesses will are paying that nearly 40% marginal tax rate where you have billionaire private equity funds paying 15, 20, even 24, depending where they put it. it's not an issue of penalizing investment income. it's an issue of penalizing labor, and those who make their income through wages. both are legitimate and both should be taxed at the same rate. so i do -- again, fundamental tax reform could solve this problem, but at least raising the capital gains rate would help address this anomaly and susan collins and claire mccaskill have a proposal to try to give small business owners, legitimate smal
cliff we know it will take some dollars out of the economy, whether it is higher taxes or entitlement cuts. it will create a little bit of a shock to the economy but there are bright spots we should look for in 2013. harris: there are three you said. what are they? >> housing, energy and huge amount, trillions of dollars sitting on the sidelines by corporate america, waiting to come into the economy once this picture clears up. harris: we're getting housing numbers coming this week already. we're starting to see prices rose a little bit this fall. that is a good sign. we're seeing housing starts have come up as well. so i understand that. energy. >> energy is a game-changer, it really is. we look what is going on around the world. the europeans, far east, they're paying over $17 a btu for natural gas. we get it for $3 in this country. dow chemical just proposed building the largest chemical plant it has in the world here in this country because of the competitive advantage of natural gas. imagine if we could liquify, ship it to europe, ship it to the far east. not only would we have a
also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise can't be reached by next week on those big unanswered issues. with both sides locked in the standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts and incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits, and delay those sweeping spending cuts. sam stein. >> yes. >> what happens in -- and it appears it will happen -- we go off the fiscal cliff for a few days? >> not much, is my understanding. kwb, over time, it will have much more of an impact, and it's unknown exactly what the market's psyche will do with respect to the government's inability to come together. with respect to the tax hikes, it won't be as bad as the rhetoric is suggesting early on. whether it's enough to actually get people to get back to the negotiating table -- because i agree with you, i think we're going to go over that deadline, that's the big question. what kind of political ramifications it will have. it's not as if yo
a fainting spell brought on by a stomach bug. >>> and the fiscal cliff in washington isn't the only major threat to the u.s. economy. this morning, time is running out to avoid a strike by 14,000 dockworkers from boston to houston for demanding better pay. 14 ports which handle half of the nation's shipping traffic are threatened. workers could walk off the job this sunday, costing the economy an estimated $1 billion per day. >>> and for the second time this month, someone has been pushed to their death on a new york subway. a woman seen running away on the left side of this surveillance video, right here, shoved a man on to the tracks last night. he was then crushed by an oncoming train. witnesses say the woman was talking to herself, pacing on the platform before pushing the man from behind. and did not appear to even know the victim. >>> and finally, you don't have to be a football fan to be inspired by this story. for the first time since being diagnosed with leukemia in september, indianapolis colts head coach chuck pagano will return to the field this weekend, a symbol of strength a
if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. it is a cliff that lawmakers built, they have set the tuesday deadline and knew it was coming for more than a year, but until now, even now they have done precious little to agree on taxes and spending cuts by that time. keeping them honest, the people in this building have known what is coming on tuesday, yet they're only returning to get to this building to get back to work just now. senators came back yesterday. house members? well, they wouldn't be back until sunday. this afternoon, house and senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. by passing house speaker john boehner who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell, to lay out a deal. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders and the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that
: as lawmakers struggled with the fiscal cliff, treasury secretary timothy geithner is facing an equally harrowing deadline is the u.s. economy approaches its borrowing limit of $16.4 trillion. he says that he is being forced to use extraordinary measures. just to try try to keep things afloat for another few months. do you ever feel like groundhog day? paul harrington is a managing partner of harrington financial llc. i do feel like bill murray in his movie "groundhog day", the movie. it seems to be happening over and over again, doesn't it? [laughter] reporter: this narrative is tiring and frustrating. we have been talking about this every year. we do have a $16.4 trillion debt ceiling. i want people to realize that there are vibrational effects associated with going over or trying to extend the debt ceiling. one example is the credit rating of the united states. we already saw a downgrade their with our respective credit rating in the united states. if we are going to go through the debt ceiling once again, and i suspect that we will revisit having another downgrade to her credit rati
. doesn't mean they're going to get anything done as far as the fiscal cliff is concerned and because the deadline is so tight, about the most we could hope for may be is some kind of temporary deal. if they don't come up with a pick, the economy may be in for a big jolt. >> we're going to see economic activity slow down. i think we're going to see, with the certainty of tax rates raising on all of us that people contract their economic activity. >> and look, here is why. when you take a look at the impact of these tax hikes, at low income levels, a few hundred dollars. but for people make more than $500,000 a year, an average tax hike of $120,000 unless there is some kind of a fix. and finally, here is one possible solution, i guess. starbucks is telling all of their employees here in the dc area to write on every single coffee they make, come together. that is not just a tall order, but maybe a venty. i think a venty. >> kelly: that's really a good idea. not a good one, doug. >> clayton: thanks. what was your beverage of choice this morning? is that your coffee cup? >> juliet: all r
the fiscal cliff. our political panel is going to weigh in on the chances for a deal. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. >>> the pressure is on as harry reid and mitch mcconnell race against the clock to find a fix to the fiscal cliff. joining me are cnn contributor and democratic strategist maria cardona and republican strategist ron bonjin. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> ron, i'll start with you. reid and mcconnell, they really are the focus in the senate. in the house, it's speaker john boehner. i've got to ask you, is his job on the line if republicans balk at any deal that's reached? >> no, not at all. speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's be
? >>> fears of the fiscal cliff are taking some of the holiday cheer right out of wall street. cnn's alison kosik watching the post-christmas trading as well as a threat to the economy that could come even sooner than the cliff? let's start with the stocks, though. >> reporter: yes, stocks, very quiet today, very quiet session. not many investors in the game today. expect that to be the case the rest of the week. the fun tny thing, this is usuay the time we see the santa claus rally. the dow down 46 points. no deal on the if i'm not mistaken. that's spoiling the rally so far. it could be worse, though. we've seen much harsher reaction to all the congressional shenanigans in the past that could be a sign the economy is in better shape this time around. the s&p 500 is still on track for a 13% gain for the year. >>alison, what's the container cliff? >> reporter: the container cliff could be serious stuff. it could be a major threat to the economy. but it's also something that can be avoided. this container cliff is the name the national retail federation has given to this situation if workers
the fiscal cliff, we're going to have a pretty good year in 2013. people are saying, you know, big companies are in good shape. we're just kind of waiting for this economy to pick up steam. the housing markets is now -- has now turned around. consumers have paid down debt. there are a lot of things that are sort of going the right way, except for one thing. we need washington to solve this problem. >> again, it's not going to be a big deal within the time that's gin left. what can americans expect come payday in the new year? the affect that's going to be in their paycheck for tax reasons. >> we all know if there's not -- sthe they could come up with a short-term deal that really just pushes the whole thing off. it says this deadline is -- we're going to change the deadline. they can do that. i mean, whether they're going to do that or not, nobody is quite sure, but it does sound like the door is open for congress to come back in. it may not hit on january 1st the way people think, but this whole thing could unravel, you know, and this could be a temporary tax hike, and then we have to figur
mobile app. >>> from the cnn money newsroom in new york, i'm ali velshi. this is your money. the fiscal cliff is a battle of ideological wills. some americans feel strongly that increasing taxes hurts the economy. quite possible that it will. but the central question is whether it will hurt all that much to raise income taxes a little bit on the highest earners in the country. well, to push the country to the edge of a recession over this is irresponsible. the increase will hardly affect the economy. but that's my opinion. and my opinion should count as much as anyone else's. the problem is that in washington one person's opinion carries disproportionate weight and that person is grover norquist. he's the head of americans for tax reform. they have got the pledge that mostly republican members of congress signed to say they won't increase taxes. now, understand this. the top marginal tax rate going from 35% to 39.6% is not a tax increase. it is a return to tax rates that would have taken place after the temporary bush tax cuts expired and got extended. so the way i see it, that cuts wit
as fractious as it could be. washington is a divided city. the fiscal cliff -- i believe both sides know what to do. it is going to be painful. either raise taxes or cut spending. both need to be done. our taxes are going to go up. some good programs will be cut automatically on january 1 if they do not come up with an agreement. that was designed by the politicians to deal with the fiscal problems. it reminds me of the old "national lampoon" comfort that if you don't buy this magazine, we will shoot this dog. save us from ourselves or help us save us from ourselves. it didn't work. they have about a week to go. i suspect they will kick the can down the road. a short-term way to get is passed the immediate collapse of what is stalling certain cuts. maybe unemployment benefits, that kind of thing. i think there will give a short- term answer. host: a lot of headlines are about the republicans and their caucus. what about democrats? are they at fault as well? "we do not want medicare to be touched." the democrats see have put their feet down and said, "we will not do anything." the republican p
the fiscal cliff. who will compromise and will a deal get done to save the u.s.'s economy? stay tuned to see who will rise above? >>> the dow is currently down 75 although we know president is going to land in an hour or so. who knows what the situation will look like by the time "fast money" comes around. >> we do know we will have the chairman of lion's gate. up 88% and give us a preview of the pipeline for 2013 and see if the stock can keep going. with the markets closed we will have a technical analyst on the market. looks like he is seeing a worse year for 2013. >> and then talk to italian conference members. >> absolutely. >> see you tonight. meantime, if you're just joining us, here's what you missed earlier on. >> welcome to hour three of "squawk on the street." here's what's happening so far. >> we're going to raise taxes and we're going to cut spending. both of those things will have something of a debilitating effect of the growth of gdp this coming year. >> we hear a lot of press release politics coming from elected officials, who wants to go over the cliff and who doesn't. it's
of the federal government as appropriately putting its foot on the accelerate to help a weak economy. the question is how quickly and -- how quickly the government should ease off the gas pedal, what the fiscal cliff is essentially taking the foot off the gas, putting two feet on the brake pedal and standing up. that is not what we want to do. the question is finding the right balance that still supports a vulnerable economy, yet begins the process to renormalize the revenue level of the federal government. host: now we've got the tweet from a fussy liberal. it says it's time to be a liberal and -- host: how much of the fiscal crisis can be attributed to the war into the afghanistan that were not part to the original budget? caller: it is -- guest: it is instructive to go back. if you look at the current deficit over $1 trillion, still a majority of that is related to the recession that began in 2008. however, it is certainly true that going into that recession, we were dealing with structural deficits that were result-a-result of tax cuts initiated during the bush administration and
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starting to see very positive trends. >> clayton: let's talk about the fiscal cliff. 'cause a number of factors in play here, number one, capital gains taxes moving forward and we saw a lot of investments and a lot of investors buying up. are you from phoenix in that neck of the woods? >> no, i'm in washington. both d.c. and seattle. >> clayton: and some of those investments, even in the d.c. area, we saw some investments in the outlying areas, but phoenix of course, vegas. investors coming in and buying up a lot of those properties down there, but how will the fiscal cliff affect investment going forward and maybe helping this recovery? because we're going to see a big increase in the capital gains taxes? >> that's right, it's going to have a bigger impact than i think analysts are predicting, maybe because they're numbers crunchers and not in the market. and fueling the momentum in the real estate markets, snapping up the foreclosure properties the last few years and the concern is they're going to be a little bit more conservative in their purchasing moving forward. and here is a
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